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How to tune your Suzuki Alto
For Suzuki Alto 1981-1994, Suzuki Hatch, Maruti Zen or Suzuki Mightyboy models!
Do you want to see this on your speedometer after tuning your Suzuki
Alto / Suzuki Hatch?
All the Suzuki Alto's sold in the Netherlands have the same engine/platform. So it is very cheap to maintain, because second hand parts can be found at almost any junkyard and are cheap! The same car and engine are also sold as the Daewoo Tico and in India as the Maruti 800. The F8B engine is also mounted in the Suzuki Mightyboy and Suzuki Hatch.
General specification:
Engine code: F8B
Capacity: 796cc
Nominal bore: 68.5mm
Stroke: 72.0mm
Compression ratio: 8.7:1
Max power output: >29.5kW/39.5bhp @ 5500rpm
Power output per litre: >37kW/49,7bhp
Power to weight ratio: 64,1bhp/ton (616Kg)
Max torque: 59 Nm @ 3000rpm
Torque per litre: 74,1Nm
Torque to weight ratio: 95,8Nm/ton
Intake 31.6mm Exhaust 27.6 (valve head diameter)
Rocker ratio: about 1.48 |
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4 speed F8B gearbox gear ratio's:
Gear |
Gear Ratio |
Speed Ratio |
1 |
43/12 |
3,583 |
2 |
39/18 |
2,166 |
3 |
32/24 |
1,333 |
4 |
27/30 |
0,900 |
Reverse |
37/22x22/11 |
3,363 |
Final |
87/20 |
4,350 |
4 speed F5A gearbox gear ratio's:
Gear |
Gear Ratio |
Speed Ratio |
1 |
43/12 |
3,583 |
2 |
39/18 |
2,166 |
3 |
33/24 |
1,375 |
4 |
28/30 |
0,933 |
Reverse |
37/22x22/11 |
3,363 |
Final |
90/17 |
5,294 |
So you don't need a lot of extra horsepower, or a lot less weight, to
make driving your Suzuki Alto much more fun!
Tuning your Suzuki Alto consists of increasing the compression ratio,
enlarging the intake ports and larger in- and exhaust valves. You can
also remove some of the camshaft spline on one end, so you can alter the
camshaft timing a few degrees!
By increasing the compression ratio to about 9.5 you will get much(!) better
throttle responce, more power and more torque. The downside is that the
engine will vibrate slightly more when idling. Even with a compression
ratio of 9.5:1 it was impossible to get the engine to "pink"
or get it to the point where detonation or pre-ignition occurs. No matter
where you put the ignition timing. (Tested on unleaded 95 and BPR6ES spark
plugs). Because the head sits lower on the blok, you get different, read
retarded, valve timing! Tuning the valvetiming is pretty difficult, I filed one side of the camshaft spline, so you can alter the
camshaft timing a few degrees!
General guideline to engine tuning: "The 80% Rule".
Which means that the intake port area should be max. 80% of the intake
valve area, the exhaust valve area should be about 80% of the intake valve
area and the exhaust port area should be 80% of exhaust valve area!
In a lot of engines the 80% is already applied. so you can just use the
exhaust valve to check the intake port area. It should be a tight fit.
In case of the F8B engine is the exhaust valve area is 76,3% of the intake
valve area.
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The cylinderhead still mounted on my 1985 Suzuki Alto
F8B engine, just removed the valve cover. |
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This is how the head looked like, when I took it off. I have had
the head skimmed by 0.85mm to increase the compression ratio to about
9.5 instead of 8.7 to 1. Skimming the head by 0.85mm will just skim
the squich area (the bump on the bottom left of the combustion chamber). Do not forget install the BPR6ES sparkplugs
instead of the BPR5ES! Otherwise your engine starts pinging at around
105kmh. (Glow ignition!) |
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You can clearly see the obstruction in the inlet port. So you
know what to do... Bore the intake port to a nice round 28mm in
diameter. Tip: You can use the exhaust valve to measure the diameter,
and at the same time to see if the port is nicely round! You can also use 3 28mm wood drills to get the size right.
Note: No carbon deposits on valve or intake port. So in original
configuration there are extremly high gas speeds! |
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Smooth the edges in the combustion chamber next to the intake and
exhaust valve seat. This will increase torque significantly. Polishing the combustion chamber prevents carbon buildup. |
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A closeup in the inlet manifold: you can see the rough finish near
the valve seat. Remove all the roughness and the |
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A close inspection of the rockers revealed that one of them (exhaust
side) was totally worn. |
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The same wear pattern shows up at the camshaft. Replacing both
camshaft and rockers is the only solution to this.
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Although I do not have a picture of the intake manifold, you will
have to make sure the diameter is enlarged to about 27mm. An easy
way of doing this is buying a few 28mm stealbrushes that fit in a
drill. For the curved channels you have to use an extension (5mm tap
end) that fits through the vacuum hole on the left. Tip: You can use
the exhaust valve to see if the diameter is OK. |
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Make sure you have the same amount of aluminium alloy dust laying
on your bench after you fininshed working on one port of your head. |
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No comment, oh wait, just one: The Netherlands is flat! |
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The result after tuning... Nice and off the scale! Almost 160! Not bad for
a tuned 796cc engine! Expect acceleration times from 0-100kmh (60mph)
in about 13 seconds. My personal record is 165, this was with 145/80/12
tires, which are 10.6% larger in diameter, and "spot on"
150 on speedo.
Also remember: after tuning the F8B you should not drive it that hard without proper
cooling; After 10 minutes of driving to the max you will get oil temperatures
of up to 160 degrees C! I did not do anything about it, only regular
oil changes and semi-synthetic 10w40 oil. Perhaps you can install an oil cooler, or build a water to oil cooler yourself.
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Although I do not have experience swapping the engine with the F8C motor
of the Daewoo Matiz, it must be easy to do! The same block with different
head, multipoint injection and the alternator on the back of engine. It
also comes with a 5 speed gearbox. Puts out 52bhp@6000rpm, and 69Nm@4600rpm.
You will get a power to weight ratio of 84pk/1000Kg. Something you will
definitely like! Imagine adding a smallish turbo charger to the F8C engine!
The new Chevrolet Matiz engine (2005 onwards) has roller rockers and they
lower valvetrain friction and valvetrain noise a lot!
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The output curve of the F8C engine. Compared to the stock Suzuki F8B engine
it has a 30% increase in power and 17% increase in torque. Almost
the whole torque curve is above the original 59Nm! (1800-6200rpm)
Click image for better resolution. (This is F8C without roller rockers) |
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This is a pictures of the bottom of a Daewoo Matiz cylinderhead.
Stated compression ratio is 9.3:1 Although the picture is not really
clear, there are bigger valves mounted; Compare the pictures below.
Also, you can still see rough edges near the valves. If you decide
to mount an F8C engine, please take the head of and smooth the edges
near the valves. The used valves on the F8C engine are 35.6mm and
31.8mm in diameter, but it is not going to be an easy swap, the
valve stem size is 5.5mm instead of 6,97mm! Intake area for intake
valve is 27% larger and 32.8% larger for exhaust side, exhaust valve
area is 79,8% of intake valve area.
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Original valvesizes are: Intake 31.6mm Exhaust 27.6
(valve diameter)
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If you want to swap valves on the F8B head, you can try the intake valve
of a Peugeot TU9 1 liter engine. Intake valve diameter is 34.8mm (21%
larger). The valve stem diameter is the same, although the length differs
a bit: 109,4 mm original compared to 112.76. The spring retainer is original
at 102,1mm but the TU valve is higher at 108,75mm, so you will have to
experiment with the spring retainers. You can adjust the longer lenght
with the standard rocker adjusters.
If it fits, not tried!, you can also try a bigger exhaust valve of a
Peugeot/Citroen TU3 or TU1 series engine. These are 29.4mm in diameter
(13% larger), and have the same stem diameter.
You can also look for the valves that are used in the Suzuki G10A engine, the intake is 36mm and exhaust is 30mm. But I doubt if they will fit. (Read: not hit each other when opening). The valvestem diameter is the same, so it is an pretty easy try.
Rocker ratio of the F8B engine is ABOUT 1.48, and 45degrees. Unfortuately
I do not have have a picture of the aluminium rockers off the F8C engine
nor from the new roller rockers.
Ofcourse you can also look for the F8C Daewoo Matiz valves. A complete
F8C engine swap, with gearbox and ECU will cost about 800 euro for an
engine with 70k on it.
You can also look for the Manual transmission of a Daewoo Matiz, mountings
should be the same, but the gear is cable selected!
The Daewoo Matiz 5 speed F8C gearbox gear ratio's:
Gear |
Speed Ratio |
1 |
3,818 |
2 |
2,210 |
3 |
1,423 |
4 |
1,029 |
5 |
0,837 |
Reverse |
3,583 |
Final |
4,444 |
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